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  • Whenever I see or hear someone say that dinosaurs don't exist, it drives me nuts. One person tells everyone that dinosaurs are too big to exist (Blue Whale is about 98 ft. It is the largest animal alive today. It's impossible that dinosaurs existed because dinosaurs are too big? Complete nonsense) Another has his own YouTube Channel and say's that Yutyrannus and other feathered dinosaurs don't exist and are all made in China. He even say's that Tropeognathus doesn't exist, was made in China, and is a dinosaur, when it is really a PTEROSAUR, was discovered in BRAZIL, and was not even made in China as there is no proof and the people of China never said that they MADE the pterosaur! In fact, he thinks that Tropeognathus was fake and was a dinosaur because of that one episode of Dinosaur Revolution! 


    Go onto "Bing Search", type "Why do some people think that dinosaurs don't exist?" and you'll be amazed at the amount of people that don't think that dinosaurs are real. Why, I ask, just why, do these people think that they don't exist even with the amount of fossils found? 

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    • I agree with you dude. ;-)

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    • I think religion has to do with some (if not most) of it.

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    • Some people think fossils are funny shaped rocks, and most people who think they're fake dont even research.

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    • Well, it would actually be both.

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    • Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Those kinds of people are too ignorant to know what a brain cell is, and given their views on prehistoric life one would assume they don't have any themselves. You just keep your chin up and keep believing in what you love! The paleological community is too strong and thriving to let miniscule non-believers pester it, so whenever you see a derogative view or snide comment about dinosaurs and the like not existing, you just lay down the facts, drop the mic, and walk away with a smile. Nobody's gonna bother you when they realize that you stand strong in what you're passionate about, and as far as non-believers simply existing, it's their own fault for being stupid. 

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    • What proof is there that they didn't exist?

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    • The only problem I see are creationists, christians and anyone else like that. They are too stupid to even believe in a spherical earth. They open up these colleges, schools, museums and attractions so they can convey the infomation that dinosaurs didn't exist and if they did then they existed alongside humans and were herbivorous. All this doesn't matter though because basically everyone knows for a fact that they DID exist millions of years before humans, were carnivorous AND herbivorous and existed long before humans EVOLVED. There is no evidence they didn't exist and the amount of evidence that proves they DID exist is mountaineous and irrefutable.  

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    • SeaSerpentine wrote:
      I think religion has to do with some (if not most) of it.

      True. 

      In the early 19th century, the Roman Catholic Church believed the fossils were in fact from mammals that failed to get on Noah's Ark and drowned. They really did.

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    • I mean, they really did believe that. Not that their statement was true.

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    • They are trying to keep us in the iron age.

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    • Yep.

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    • They are trying to stop the advancement of society by using deranged logic and no reason other than to preserve their faith.

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    • True like a duck.

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    • I'm a Christian and That doesn't mean I'm against dinosaurs!:|

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    • That also dosnt mean im against evolution!

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    • Then what do you believe refutes or is problematic for christianity (if you do). Why can't all christians be like you.

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    • Personally, I don't know. Maybe only the really really really really strict denominations of Christianity,and the odd person, don't believe in Dinosaurs.

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    • Christians will always try to deny irrefutable facts that contradict their flimsy religion. Why do they care so much about things that could be harmful to their ideals? No religion is perfect and Christianity seems to be the only religion in history where its practitioners are absolutely obsessed with dominating. The Egyptians didn't care that their belief wasn't held worldwide or if it was scientically inaccurate or wrong. Its what they knew and what they believed in and they didn't care for making other peoples believe in their religion. Christians are exactly the opposite. They were responsible for the destruction of many cultures, religions and even languages in history and nowdays they are obsessed with trying to make everyone a Christian. Christianity is trying to make human understanding primitive. We have advanced past their beliefs and they are literally the only group of people in the world know about evolution but do not believe in Evolution. Correct me if i'm wrong.

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    • I also hear something like this before too.

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    • Yep. 

      May i present to you: Paleontology and the evolution theory, the archenemies of the Christian Church.

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    • work of religion.

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    • I saw a page on Change.org about a bunch of people trying to take a dinosaur themed band off of the air because it was "polluting our children's minds with fake demons and trying to steer them away from God." I've never heard anything more stupid in my life. Dinosaurs were real animals, just like the ones we have now, they most certainly weren't demons!

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    • They even have a website called Cristians Against Dinosaurs, where their motto is "Teaching others to deny the "dinosaur lie" and accept the Lord." I'm a Christian, but I find that remark intollerable.

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    • link pl0x

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    • Just look it up.

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    • I is l8zy

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    • Yes remember it's not all of us!

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    • It's absolutely horrifying.

      Dinosaurs did exist, a lot of churches even know that. But they simply say it's a lie in order to regain power. 

      Also, fossils. That just proves they existed. The definite piece of evidence for their existence was the 1878 Iguanodon graveside in Belgium.

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    • Can everybody stop giving some values that extremist Christians may have to all of us! It's a teeny bit offensive!

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    • OK, sorry.

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    • Sorry about that I got a bit angry.

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    • It's OK

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    • Thanks.

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    • Oh. Sorry. I definetly don't think it applies to all Christians. I'm even a Christain myself.

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    • No it wasn't you it was the others I was a bit annoyed about but I'm fine know, sorry.

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    • I even said to you why can't all christians be like you which hints at the fact that you are different from the others and I acknowledged that. So I am not saying all of them are exactly the same but I am saying most of them share similar beliefs. I even know some Christians myself who think dinosaurs were real and the Earth is millions of years old.

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    • Robertsc wrote:
      I even said to you why can't all christians be like you which hints at the fact that you are different from the others and I acknowledged that. So I am not saying all of them are exactly the same but I am saying most of them share similar beliefs. I even know some Christians myself who think dinosaurs were real and the Earth is millions of years old.

      Me too. I'm one of them. However, pretty much all of the people I know who are Christain agree that dinosaurs do exist. I don't understand how anyone can say that they didn't exist when faced with such a wide body of evidence. I even found an article written by a non-Christain who said that he didn't believe in dinosaurs because "they were allways found in remote areas and not all over the world" and "none were found in North America". Several dinosaurs are from North America, and the reason that they are usually found in remote areas is that a lot of urban and rural areas have been paved over or have houses on top of them, so it is hard to dig there.

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    • I'm a Christian as well.

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    • Robertsc wrote: Christians will always try to deny irrefutable facts that contradict their flimsy religion. Why do they care so much about things that could be harmful to their ideals? No religion is perfect and Christianity seems to be the only religion in history where its practitioners are absolutely obsessed with dominating. The Egyptians didn't care that their belief wasn't held worldwide or if it was scientically inaccurate or wrong. Its what they knew and what they believed in and they didn't care for making other peoples believe in their religion. Christians are exactly the opposite. They were responsible for the destruction of many cultures, religions and even languages in history and nowdays they are obsessed with trying to make everyone a Christian. Christianity is trying to make human understanding primitive. We have advanced past their beliefs and they are literally the only group of people in the world know about evolution but do not believe in Evolution. Correct me if i'm wrong.

      OK, sorry I was annoyed at this and...

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    • Withersoul 235 wrote: Yep. 

      May i present to you: Paleontology and the evolution theory, the archenemies of the Christian Church.

      And this one.

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    • Nothing else made me annoyed and I wasn't annoyed at the people who said them. Just at the comments themselves. Please can everyone forgive me I'm sorry.

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    • I was never really mad at you. You don't have to apologize to me.

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    • Thankyou

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    • Because religious people are stupid.

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    • Wow, that's racist.

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    • What makes you think that dinosaurus65,000,000?

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    • Coney smells ba wrote:
      What makes you think that dinosaurus65,000,000?

      What?

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    • I was asking what reasoning he had for saying what he did (if any) but I hope it was a joke.

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    • They believe in gods. That's like believing in Thor or Odin or Anubis.

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    • Is there a problem with that?

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    • Yes. Stop rubbing your fiction in my face.

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    • Tell me what the problem is?

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    • It's annoying.

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    • Why?

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    • There are four type scenarios as to why people this think this. Usually it involves religion you when God created the world all in those 7 days and all the animals and humans suddenly appeared in one day, many people of religious community have taken this out of context, and anything that came before God's supposed Genesis beginning didn't exist. In truth those 7 days actually were 7 eras within the divine days.

      These eras accordingly were the Neoarchean, Paleoproterozoic, Mesoproterozoic, Neoproterozoic, Paleozoic, Mesozoic and the last the Cenozoic. And with each of the 7 eras, God started evolution each stage at a time within each year of those 7 eras.

      Second is the concept of existance, (e.g when something is alive then it exists, but when it dies or the entire species is wiped out then it ceases to exists), when people say that the dinosaurs didn't exists they mean they try to mean that they don't exist to this day; they know their fossils are all that is left, but they're still extinct (with the exception of Birds).

      Thirdly there has always been this lack of education among some people as well when it comes to Paleontology, like in the days of old of our great-grandfathers things were more all about entertainment than education (of course the dinosaurs were true marvels by the 1800-1920 and still looked upon). Usually people up till now know only about up to 2 or 4 dinosaurs which is usually the standard classics like Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops or Stegosaurus. And even the most famous dinosaur names are forgotten and sometimes mispronounced like Brachiosaurus. Some people even don't even about the most famous ones such as Allosaurus.

      Yeah even Allosaurus has been forgotten a few times. When people here of a new dinosaur or new prehistoric creature some refuse to believe it even existed because of their unique traits and due to fake dinosaurs being seen on cartoons. I'm mean seriously would you have believed about dinosaur with batwings like Yi qi or Stegosaurs with spikes on their shoulders (trust me when I say this, my friend never believed me about stegosaurs having spikes on their other body parts other than their tails). Even some of the ficitious dinosaurs that were made actually turned out to be real, Hapactrognathus is one of them. In the sum of it all it goes by what people do with their education.

      And the Fourth and most obvious reason. People just don't believe dinosaurs exist period...for people who feel safe within the norm they refuse to believe that stranger almost alien-like creatures from over 200 million years ago actually existed on the earth. I mean it would be hard to believe that a 200ft long bird/reptile-like creature were walking across the lands.

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    • Fair enough.

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    • Yep.

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    • Withersoul, how's Stenon?

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    • Oh, he's good. He's sleeping right now.

      How's your prosauropod collection ?

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    • Grazing peacefully.

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    • A beautiful sight.

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    • Scholarworld wrote:
      Whenever I see or hear someone say that dinosaurs don't exist, it drives me nuts. One person tells everyone that dinosaurs are too big to exist (Blue Whale is about 98 ft. It is the largest animal alive today. It's impossible that dinosaurs existed because dinosaurs are too big? Complete nonsense) Another has his own YouTube Channel and say's that Yutyrannus and other feathered dinosaurs don't exist and are all made in China. He even say's that Tropeognathus doesn't exist, was made in China, and is a dinosaur, when it is really a PTEROSAUR, was discovered in BRAZIL, and was not even made in China as there is no proof and the people of China never said that they MADE the pterosaur! In fact, he thinks that Tropeognathus was fake and was a dinosaur because of that one episode of Dinosaur Revolution! 


      Go onto "Bing Search", type "Why do some people think that dinosaurs don't exist?" and you'll be amazed at the amount of people that don't think that dinosaurs are real. Why, I ask, just why, do these people think that they don't exist even with the amount of fossils found? 

      Dinosaurs not existing? I'll be surprised if anyone actually said THAT!

      I know for a fact that Dinosaurs still exist because birds are the desandants of Dinosaurs.

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    • Erik.wallace.395 wrote:
      Scholarworld wrote:
      Whenever I see or hear someone say that dinosaurs don't exist, it drives me nuts. One person tells everyone that dinosaurs are too big to exist (Blue Whale is about 98 ft. It is the largest animal alive today. It's impossible that dinosaurs existed because dinosaurs are too big? Complete nonsense) Another has his own YouTube Channel and say's that Yutyrannus and other feathered dinosaurs don't exist and are all made in China. He even say's that Tropeognathus doesn't exist, was made in China, and is a dinosaur, when it is really a PTEROSAUR, was discovered in BRAZIL, and was not even made in China as there is no proof and the people of China never said that they MADE the pterosaur! In fact, he thinks that Tropeognathus was fake and was a dinosaur because of that one episode of Dinosaur Revolution! 


      Go onto "Bing Search", type "Why do some people think that dinosaurs don't exist?" and you'll be amazed at the amount of people that don't think that dinosaurs are real. Why, I ask, just why, do these people think that they don't exist even with the amount of fossils found? 

      Dinosaurs not existing? I'll be surprised if anyone actually said THAT!

      I know for a fact that Dinosaurs still exist because birds are the desandants of Dinosaurs.

      Christians be like: "It's just a theory!"

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    • They don't know what the meaning of theory is. Particularly in science. A scientific theory is a well substantiated explanation of something natural and is based on a lots of facts that have been proven in the laboratory. In science theory does not mean guess. It means truthful account of something that has been repeatedly proven.

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    • Robertsc wrote:
      They don't know what the meaning of theory is. Particularly in science. A scientific theory is a well substantiated explanation of something natural and is based on a lots of facts that have been proven in the laboratory. In science theory does not mean guess. It means truthful account of something that has been repeatedly proven.
      • clears throat* Well THIS christian happens to know the meaning of theory...thank you very much. And yes it is based on many facts, but still in some cases they are still guesses. Like with Nanotyrannus being either a T.Rex or its own genus, most of the puzzle pieces are there, but there needs to be more evidence.
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    • Robertsc wrote: They are trying to stop the advancement of society by using deranged logic and no reason other than to preserve their faith.

      That's a very small minority of Christians. Most believe in a spherical Earth, too.

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    • LeadFaun wrote:

      Robertsc wrote: They are trying to stop the advancement of society by using deranged logic and no reason other than to preserve their faith.

      That's a very small minority of Christians. Most believe in a spherical Earth, too.

      The minority is the most vocal group

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    • People aren't bright thats why lol.

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    • Well in religion they won't believe that god could make such "horrible creatures". I and all of us think that dinos are fascinating creatures.

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    • They seriously are.

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    • Can't argue with you on that.

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    • Shiro18 wrote: Well in religion they won't believe that god could make such "horrible creatures". I and all of us think that dinos are fascinating creatures.

      And god could make all other demons and stuff?

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    • Utkar22 wrote:

      Shiro18 wrote: Well in religion they won't believe that god could make such "horrible creatures". I and all of us think that dinos are fascinating creatures.

      And god could make all other demons and stuff

      Well they think God protects them from the demon stuff.

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    • Shiro18 wrote: Well in religion they won't believe that god could make such "horrible creatures". I and all of us think that dinos are fascinating creatures.

      And god could make all other demons and stuff? </div>

      1. The Bible didn't say God made the demons. 2. Thats not what religious people think, even the ones who don't believe in dinosaurs. They just think they're fake. 3. A lot of Christians believe in evolution, and in turn, dinosaurs.

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    • LeadFaun wrote:

      Shiro18 wrote: Well in religion they won't believe that god could make such "horrible creatures". I and all of us think that dinos are fascinating creatures.

      And god could make all other demons and stuff?

      "1. The Bible didn't say God made the demons. 2. Thats not what religious people think, even the ones who don't believe in dinosaurs. They just think they're fake. 3. A lot of Christians believe in evolution, and in turn, dinosaurs. </div>"

      Maybe. (my quote messed up)

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    • Shiro18 wrote:
      LeadFaun wrote:

      Shiro18 wrote: Well in religion they won't believe that god could make such "horrible creatures". I and all of us think that dinos are fascinating creatures.

      And god could make all other demons and stuff?

      "1. The Bible didn't say God made the demons. 2. Thats not what religious people think, even the ones who don't believe in dinosaurs. They just think they're fake. 3. A lot of Christians believe in evolution, and in turn, dinosaurs.

      It's Satan who made the demons, not God.

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    • How much power does the Devil actually have.

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    • ?

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    • Coney smells ba wrote:
      How much power does the Devil actually have.

      Nobody knows.

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    • Coney smells ba wrote: How much power does the Devil actually have.

      Assuming he exists

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    • Coney smells ba wrote:
      How much power does the Devil actually have.


      Satan's power only exceeds so far. Satan can transition through only two of the Heavens except for the third which houses the Kingdom. According to the Bible, Satan only leaves out of Hell to grant permission from God in order to test certain worshipers. Satan usually summons his minions to his business of sins, anything like causing murder, anger, suffering and anything profanic like a guy wanting to have sex with every girl he can find.

      Like God, he tresspass in dreams, but sometimes in the living realm, but only during certain occassions when his worshippers are highly loyal to him; such as his worshipers suddenly following the laws of God, at this point he must try to drive back into his command. Sometimes, Satan will possess his victims in order to harm the high profeits and worshippers he finds are a real threat to him. Like God, he too works in mysterious ways; Satan will often times manipulate people by distracting them from the Lord's word; or even grant the wish for a person (depending). Overall, God or Jehovah has more greater power than Satan himself; even something a simple as cross is a powerful hinder to the devil's power to the point he'll kneel to its glory; so I would say Satan only has a quarter times shorter greatly compared to God and Jesus' power. He's really only strong against us mortals, if he barely follow the lord's word and live a life entirely in sin. I've heard a lot of stories where Satan has manipulated, and even granted the wishes from people to kill somebody (even if their his own subordinates).

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    • And so this thread went from dinosaurs being supposedly fake to the Devil.

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    • Yeh

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    • Withersoul 235 wrote:
      And so this thread went from dinosaurs being supposedly fake to the Devil.


      How's that? Somebody did ask a question so might as well ask it. As long as it isn't silly...XD

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    • A lot of people think dinosaurs don't exist because they resemble things like dragons or demons or something else. Honestly, a lot of dragon myths come from dinosaurs. Plus, I find it all good if people are religious, but they need to be aware of the fact that science is explaining things that cannot be denied. Also, other people think dinosaurs don't exist because they are simply stupid. Also, no one knows that birds are part of the dinosaurs. There is no evidence that dinosaurs don't exist except fro the word of some idiot.

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    • I am not religious, I do believe in God, I have a BS degree. I am HIGHLY skeptical that dinosaurs existed.  Of course, I DID believe in dinosaurs most of my life, until about a few months ago when I heard some great points why it could be a hoak.  Dinosaurs are on kid's t-shirts, Sesame Street, action movies, textbooks, etc.  It's the norm to believe it, it's something everyone is taught from the earliest age.  Un-learning a false believe takes a bit of research and I think most people aren't up for the challenge.  I'm okay with people having whatever believes they do.  It's beyond 1984 afterall.

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    • 24.167.217.41 wrote:
      I am not religious, I do believe in God, I have a BS degree. I am HIGHLY skeptical that dinosaurs existed.  Of course, I DID believe in dinosaurs most of my life, until about a few months ago when I heard some great points why it could be a hoak.  Dinosaurs are on kid's t-shirts, Sesame Street, action movies, textbooks, etc.  It's the norm to believe it, it's something everyone is taught from the earliest age.  Un-learning a false believe takes a bit of research and I think most people aren't up for the challenge.  I'm okay with people having whatever believes they do.  It's beyond 1984 afterall.

      So dinosaurs don't exist because they're popular? I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. If that was the case, why would we find their bones in the ground as fossils? Why would dinosaur sections even exist in museums at all? The only reason dinosaurs are popular to this day is because they exist.

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    • Logo8th wrote:
      24.167.217.41 wrote:
      I am not religious, I do believe in God, I have a BS degree. I am HIGHLY skeptical that dinosaurs existed.  Of course, I DID believe in dinosaurs most of my life, until about a few months ago when I heard some great points why it could be a hoak.  Dinosaurs are on kid's t-shirts, Sesame Street, action movies, textbooks, etc.  It's the norm to believe it, it's something everyone is taught from the earliest age.  Un-learning a false believe takes a bit of research and I think most people aren't up for the challenge.  I'm okay with people having whatever believes they do.  It's beyond 1984 afterall.
      So dinosaurs don't exist because they're popular? I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. If that was the case, why would we find their bones in the ground as fossils? Why would dinosaur sections even exist in museums at all? The only reason dinosaurs are popular to this day is because they exist.

      Now that's a perfect quote. I 100% agree.

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    • 24.167.217.41 wrote: I am not religious, I do believe in God, I have a BS degree. I am HIGHLY skeptical that dinosaurs existed.  Of course, I DID believe in dinosaurs most of my life, until about a few months ago when I heard some great points why it could be a hoak.  Dinosaurs are on kid's t-shirts, Sesame Street, action movies, textbooks, etc.  It's the norm to believe it, it's something everyone is taught from the earliest age.  Un-learning a false believe takes a bit of research and I think most people aren't up for the challenge.  I'm okay with people having whatever believes they do.  It's beyond 1984 afterall.

      Now that's just crap.

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    • 24.167.217.41 wrote: I am not religious, I do believe in God, I have a BS degree. I am HIGHLY skeptical that dinosaurs existed.  Of course, I DID believe in dinosaurs most of my life, until about a few months ago when I heard some great points why it could be a hoak.  Dinosaurs are on kid's t-shirts, Sesame Street, action movies, textbooks, etc.  It's the norm to believe it, it's something everyone is taught from the earliest age.  Un-learning a false believe takes a bit of research and I think most people aren't up for the challenge.  I'm okay with people having whatever believes they do.  It's beyond 1984 afterall.

      What do you mean? Do you want to say all these bones, fossils and researches of hundreds of years are just a piece of man made shit? If you do so, you have lost your mind.

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    • TheCERATOSAUR wrote:

      24.167.217.41 wrote: I am not religious, I do believe in God, I have a BS degree. I am HIGHLY skeptical that dinosaurs existed.  Of course, I DID believe in dinosaurs most of my life, until about a few months ago when I heard some great points why it could be a hoak.  Dinosaurs are on kid's t-shirts, Sesame Street, action movies, textbooks, etc.  It's the norm to believe it, it's something everyone is taught from the earliest age.  Un-learning a false believe takes a bit of research and I think most people aren't up for the challenge.  I'm okay with people having whatever believes they do.  It's beyond 1984 afterall.

      What do you mean? Do you want to say all these bones, fossils and researches of hundreds of years are just a piece of man made shit? If you do so, you have lost your mind

      Try to take your so called BS degree again

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    • I agree nowhere there is mentioned that dinosaurs existed. See the Bible, Qur'an and others there is not mentioned a single thing about it. But they COULD exist. All these fossils cannot be a hoax by the way.

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    • TheCERATOSAUR wrote: I agree nowhere there is mentioned that dinosaurs existed. See the Bible, Qur'an and others there is not mentioned a single thing about it. But they COULD exist. All these fossils cannot be a hoax by the way.

      Oh, they definitely exist. We just don't know how they did.

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    • They have to exist because:

      1. We know that modern creatures did not just pop out of nowhere- they needed to have ancestors, and all those layers of rock are definitely not hoaxes.

      2. Why would someone make the time and the effort to fool us like that???

      3. If there are so many palaeontologists and dinosaurs weren't real, then one of them would have at least been honest enough to admit it.

      4. If dinosaurs were a hoax, there would be no evidence at all except for a few made up fossils, and they would never get this far.

      5. The family tree of animals would be highly incomplete and would leave a lot of logical explanations out. C'mon people, are we still in the iron age?

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    • 24.167.217.41 wrote: I am not religious, I do believe in God, I have a BS degree. I am HIGHLY skeptical that dinosaurs existed.  Of course, I DID believe in dinosaurs most of my life, until about a few months ago when I heard some great points why it could be a hoak.  Dinosaurs are on kid's t-shirts, Sesame Street, action movies, textbooks, etc.  It's the norm to believe it, it's something everyone is taught from the earliest age.  Un-learning a false believe takes a bit of research and I think most people aren't up for the challenge.  I'm okay with people having whatever believes they do.  It's beyond 1984 afterall.

      So this is what you are REALLY trying to say is:

      Dinosaurs do not exist because they are in popular culture.

      That would also mean that humans do not exist because they are in popular culture.

      And we do exist.

      (Sadly).

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    • Garfzilla wrote:
      They have to exist because:

      1. We know that modern creatures did not just pop out of nowhere- they needed to have ancestors, and all those layers of rock are definitely not hoaxes.

      2. Why would someone make the time and the effort to fool us like that???

      3. If there are so many palaeontologists and dinosaurs weren't real, then one of them would have at least been honest enough to admit it.

      4. If dinosaurs were a hoax, there would be no evidence at all except for a few made up fossils, and they would never get this far.

      5. The family tree of animals would be highly incomplete and would leave a lot of logical explanations out. C'mon people, are we still in the iron age?

      Agreed.

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    • Agreed dinosaurs are real some people are just dumb

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    • 68.9.163.184 wrote: Agreed dinosaurs are real some people are just dumb

      First tell me the name of the person who started making fossils in 1819 and is still here to make this conspiracy. (I guess......it's you) 😂

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    • TheCERATOSAUR wrote:

      68.9.163.184 wrote: Agreed dinosaurs are real some people are just dumb

      First tell me the name of the person who started making fossils in 1819 and is still here to make this conspiracy.

      (I guess......it's you) 😂

      Nobody ever made fossils. Fossils are formerly natural lifeforms from the past.

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    • JahmirWhite wrote:

      TheCERATOSAUR wrote:

      68.9.163.184 wrote: Agreed dinosaurs are real some people are just dumb

      First tell me the name of the person who started making fossils in 1819 and is still here to make this conspiracy.

      (I guess......it's you) 😂

      Nobody ever made fossils. Fossils are formerly natural lifeforms from the past.

      I didn't mean that. A person was telling dinosaurs never existed and they are made by media so I specially dedicated it to him.

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    • Have ever actually seen a dinosaur?

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    • 155.97.8.163 wrote: Have ever actually seen a dinosaur?

      Have you ever actually seen God?

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    • TheCERATOSAUR wrote:

      155.97.8.163 wrote: Have ever actually seen a dinosaur?

      Have you ever actually seen God?

      Have you ever saw cavemen?

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    • 155.97.8.163 wrote: Have ever actually seen a dinosaur?

      In fact, I have.

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    • Garfzilla wrote:

      155.97.8.163 wrote: Have ever actually seen a dinosaur?

      In fact, I have.

      I know, birds.

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    • TheCERATOSAUR wrote:

      Garfzilla wrote:

      155.97.8.163 wrote: Have ever actually seen a dinosaur?

      In fact, I have.

      I know, birds.

      Yep.

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    • Garfzilla wrote:

      TheCERATOSAUR wrote:

      Garfzilla wrote:

      155.97.8.163 wrote: Have ever actually seen a dinosaur?

      In fact, I have.
      I know, birds.
      Yep.

      It's just obivous.

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    • there are dinosaurs that are the ancestors of birds 
      In-my-veins-flow-the-blood-of-dinosaurs-i-tell-you-cute-tiny-bird
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    • Knightthekid wrote:

      there are dinosaurs that are the ancestors of birds 
      In-my-veins-flow-the-blood-of-dinosaurs-i-tell-you-cute-tiny-bird

      If you see the taxonomy of the birds, they are actually dinosaurs. However, the Theropods are the ones that specifically evolved into modern birds. Also, it's strange that birds are part of the order saurischia instead of Ornithschia ;)

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    • https://www.theodysseyonline.com/dinosaurs-arent-real

      Check this link. It makes the theory on this thread look good. It states that pterosaurs and marine reptiles are dinosaurs. Which sucks. And also, the extinction was not only a meteor, it was also climate change, volcanic activity, and food shortage. This theory is entirely illogical. They died out from more than just the meteor... pretty much, every no-dinosaurs theory is stupid because it mainly comes form people who know nothing about dinosaurs.

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    • The link you have added is the dumbest writing ever. These people actually are just writing these to buy some extra money and nothing at all. I have loved dinosaurs from first and studied on them so hard, and now I have to read a stupid theory -"dinosaurs are only made by media and all these fossils are some conspiracy". Salute to these people for making these.

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    • TheCERATOSAUR wrote: The link you have added is the dumbest writing ever. These people actually are just writing these to buy some extra money and nothing at all. I have loved dinosaurs from first and studied on them so hard, and now I have to read a stupid theory -"dinosaurs are only made by media and all these fossils are some conspiracy". Salute to these people for making these.

      Did you see the comments? We are not alone, my friend.

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    • Oh,sorry

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    • TheCERATOSAUR wrote: Oh,sorry

      You thought I supported them??? Just asking.

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    • Garfzilla wrote:

      TheCERATOSAUR wrote: Oh,sorry

      You thought I supported them??? Just asking.

      I do not support the people who wrote the article. They are dumb.

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    • Garfzilla wrote:

      Garfzilla wrote:

      TheCERATOSAUR wrote: Oh,sorry

      You thought I supported them??? Just asking.

      I do not support the people who wrote the article. They are dumb.

      Ok, I thought you were telling negatively.

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    • Banglocephale wrote:

      Garfzilla wrote:

      Garfzilla wrote:

      TheCERATOSAUR wrote: Oh,sorry

      You thought I supported them??? Just asking.

      I do not support the people who wrote the article. They are dumb.

      Ok, I thought you were telling negatively.

      Forget it. I loved dinosaurs since I was pretty much a baby, so I would never betray my belief of them.

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    • I think I'm gonna die every day seeing the amount of people who don't think dinosaurs once existed.

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    • No the Catholic Church didnt believe that

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    • Tell that the Catholic Church didn't told that cause I don't think there is said that some monstrous beasts never existed.

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    • I've never heard anything like that even from those who attack the Church

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    • Actually I am a Muslim not Christian, and sorry if you felt insulted.

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    • There is no evidence to prove dinosaurs existed let alone prove what they looked like. Every dinosaur that anyone has ever seen was created by artists, people speculating what an entire creature looked like based off of one fossil. No full dinosaur skeloton has ever been found. If dinosaurs are real, then why did no one stumble upon any fossils before the 1800s? It's a multimillion dollar industry. If it means keeping all that $ then of course they will never tell you dinosaurs didnt really exist.

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    • For your kind information, dinosaurs weren't found before 1800's because geology was invented in 18th century.

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    • 172.58.24.224 wrote: There is no evidence to prove dinosaurs existed let alone prove what they looked like. Every dinosaur that anyone has ever seen was created by artists, people speculating what an entire creature looked like based off of one fossil. No full dinosaur skeloton has ever been found. If dinosaurs are real, then why did no one stumble upon any fossils before the 1800s? It's a multimillion dollar industry. If it means keeping all that $ then of course they will never tell you dinosaurs didnt really exist.

      I can't believe you believe in God and not in Dinosaurs. The evidence that Dinosaurs existed is worldwide fossil findings, theories, and scientific explanations. The evidence that God existed is the words of a few people and the bible, which have no real material evidence to back them up, so we don't know if he existed or not. Same with dinosaurs, but they have a lot more evidence.

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    • Oh, and also it's trolling to post things like this on this site. I am no admin, but leave immediately.

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    • Why you are creating unnecessary pages A fandom user]

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    • http://thetechreader.com/top-ten/top-ten-scientific-flaws-in-the-theory-of-prehistoric-dinosaurs/

      Visit this website. I don't agree with everything there, but one should always eliminate bias by looking at both sides of an equation.

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    • Well, can I tell you something? This article does not eliminate my belief of dinosaurs, and I already have reasons why all of them could be wrong, but at least it has GOOD reasons, and not like the one you posted.

      10- I do not believe dinosaurs are a hoax, but what I do believe is a hoax is the meteorite. I think it was a small rock from space that landed there, killing a few dinosaurs, but the real reason is because dinosaurs were an evolutionary dead end.

      9- Many people deny dinosaurs existed because we do not know how it was back then and we cannot prove it, but look: If we don't know that, how do we know that there weren't enough food or water sources?

      8- That changes nothing.

      7- We only measure the laws of physics by things we see TODAY. So look, we have no idea about that, either.

      6- It depends- because I have a theory that dinosaurs were rare or non-existent in a few countries. Also, some of them were buried deep, real deep.

      5- Yes, it is ineffective. But what the writer is saying here that our time measurement is bad, and that it can't be relied upon. Perhaps dinosaurs lived earlier or later. But this one does not have anything on anything.

      4- HA! HA! HA! Do you think anyone with their superstition back then thought those were really dinosaurs? No, of course they didn't. They thought they saw Typhon, Dragons, or Sea Serpents. It is so OBVIOUS. There was even a picture of a dragon.

      3- What, do people think the skeletons don't erode when they fossilize?

      2- What happened there is that people made monsters that could have been based on dinosaurs during antique or medieval times, and later on, people thought about what happened before man. Scientists saw mythological monsters, and thought "hey, could these creatures be what people thought they saw when they saw fossils?" so they set out, and they were most likely right.

      1- DINOSAURS DID NOT F-ING LIVE IN THE DEEP OCEAN! THOSE TWO GROUPS WERE COMPLETELY UNRELATED! MY GOD, I'M QUITE SKEPTIC THAT DINOSAURS WERE REPTILES AT ALL! Now, there have been several sightings of such creatures, but I am quite sceptic of those. However, I believe those were an evolutionary dead end too.

      But yes, I do see both sides, and I also have evidence that they do not exist, but it is outranked by the evidence that they do exist. And I have made crazy theories that not even humans exist, so I am open to anything.

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    • And I also forgot to mention the blue whale. It is the largest animal alive today, and while people say they have found larger dinosaurs. I am highly suspicious of that.

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    • U are right, my friend

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    • It's sad (but not surprising) how most people buy into the dinosaurs BS. Nobody here has ever seen a fossil for themselves, actually all the so called "fossils" displayed at every museum are plaster "recreations", the supposed real bones are kept in vaults that only very few people have access to. A full skeleton has never been found nor has a single skull, actually nobody thats not a "paleantologist" has ever found any fossils. Think about it...tens of tousands of constructions and dig sites every day all over the world and nobody ever finds fossils...except the people who have a vested interest (bones sell for millions) in finding them. They find indian burial sites and idigineous tribal artifacts all the time but never dinosaurs bones. 

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    • 184.88.96.154 wrote:
      It's sad (but not surprising) how most people buy into the dinosaurs BS. Nobody here has ever seen a fossil for themselves, actually all the so called "fossils" displayed at every museum are plaster "recreations", the supposed real bones are kept in vaults that only very few people have access to. A full skeleton has never been found nor has a single skull, actually nobody thats not a "paleantologist" has ever found any fossils. Think about it...tens of tousands of constructions and dig sites every day all over the world and nobody ever finds fossils...except the people who have a vested interest (bones sell for millions) in finding them. They find indian burial sites and idigineous tribal artifacts all the time but never dinosaurs bones. 

      Dinosaurs are found by plenty of non-paleontologists. The term "amatuer-paleontologist" esists for a reason. Children have even found dinosaurs and other prehistoric life. Complete skeletons and skulls have been found, they are just extremely rare due to the extremely rare conditions necesaery for preservation and fossilization. Also, not every single fossil on display is fake. Sue the T. rex, for example, is on display with most of her real bones. Everything except her skull, which was found but was too heavy to attach to her body, and some other minor pieces are her real bones. Even her real skull is on display in another area of the museum. Many non-paleontologists have seen fossils as well. It is thus clear that none of these argument work to disprove dinosaurs.

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    • 184.88.96.154 wrote: It's sad (but not surprising) how most people buy into the dinosaurs BS. Nobody here has ever seen a fossil for themselves, actually all the so called "fossils" displayed at every museum are plaster "recreations", the supposed real bones are kept in vaults that only very few people have access to. A full skeleton has never been found nor has a single skull, actually nobody thats not a "paleantologist" has ever found any fossils. Think about it...tens of tousands of constructions and dig sites every day all over the world and nobody ever finds fossils...except the people who have a vested interest (bones sell for millions) in finding them. They find indian burial sites and idigineous tribal artifacts all the time but never dinosaurs bones. 

      Who told you a complete skeleton has never been found? There are many complete skeletons of dinosaurs like "Sue" a Tyrannosaurus AMNH 780 an Allosaurus. And I agree not all paleontologists havve not found bones but who told you NO paleontologists have found bones? You are also vandalising pages. If you don't believe Dinosaurs existed than simply leave this wiki.

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    • 184.88.96.154 wrote: It's sad (but not surprising) how most people buy into the dinosaurs BS. Nobody here has ever seen a fossil for themselves, actually all the so called "fossils" displayed at every museum are plaster "recreations", the supposed real bones are kept in vaults that only very few people have access to. A full skeleton has never been found nor has a single skull, actually nobody thats not a "paleantologist" has ever found any fossils. Think about it...tens of tousands of constructions and dig sites every day all over the world and nobody ever finds fossils...except the people who have a vested interest (bones sell for millions) in finding them. They find indian burial sites and idigineous tribal artifacts all the time but never dinosaurs bones. 

      I have seen enough fossils to know they are real. And no, not just ones in museums. The reason they find more tribal artifacts because they are newer on earth than dinosaur bones. Use your brain, if you have one. There are enough courses for younger people who want to do this.

      Plus, referring to native americans as Indians is racist and offensive.

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    • And you obviously don't know anything about dinosaurs. If you want to disprove something, research it. And most people who research the words of dinosaurs by the experts end up believing in them.

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    • 184.88.96.154 wrote: It's sad (but not surprising) how most people buy into the dinosaurs BS. Nobody here has ever seen a fossil for themselves, actually all the so called "fossils" displayed at every museum are plaster "recreations", the supposed real bones are kept in vaults that only very few people have access to. A full skeleton has never been found nor has a single skull, actually nobody thats not a "paleantologist" has ever found any fossils. Think about it...tens of tousands of constructions and dig sites every day all over the world and nobody ever finds fossils...except the people who have a vested interest (bones sell for millions) in finding them. They find indian burial sites and idigineous tribal artifacts all the time but never dinosaurs bones. 

      Good, We have a person who doesn't believe that dinosaurs existed and joined this wiki.

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    • I found this while searching the web, and I used to think dinosaurs are real, but now I'm thinking there fake. Nothing in this world has ever been 100% extinct, but the almighty powerful dinosaurs are, if they were so powerful, how did they die? It had to be a MUCH more powerful force, yet we've never seen that force, whether it be a disease or a asteroid, it left no mark on Earth, and it had to be pretty powerful to wipe out an entire species of powerful creatures like "Dinosaurs" yet it leaves no sign of its existence. No one living has ever seen dinosaurs too, to back up my statements.

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    • GenerationRewinder wrote:
      I found this while searching the web, and I used to think dinosaurs are real, but now I'm thinking there fake. Nothing in this world has ever been 100% extinct, but the almighty powerful dinosaurs are, if they were so powerful, how did they die? It had to be a MUCH more powerful force, yet we've never seen that force, whether it be a disease or a asteroid, it left no mark on Earth, and it had to be pretty powerful to wipe out an entire species of powerful creatures like "Dinosaurs" yet it leaves no sign of its existence. No one living has ever seen dinosaurs too, to back up my statements.

      The asteroid did leave a mark. The Chixulub Crater in Mexio has been dated to the exact time when dinosaurs went extinct. Also, I'm 100% sure you've seen a real dinosaur, as birds are living dinosaurs. Also, there are plenty of other species that are 100% extinct, such as Wooly Mammoths, or Saber-Toothed Cats.

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    • Logo8th wrote:

      GenerationRewinder wrote:
      I found this while searching the web, and I used to think dinosaurs are real, but now I'm thinking there fake. Nothing in this world has ever been 100% extinct, but the almighty powerful dinosaurs are, if they were so powerful, how did they die? It had to be a MUCH more powerful force, yet we've never seen that force, whether it be a disease or a asteroid, it left no mark on Earth, and it had to be pretty powerful to wipe out an entire species of powerful creatures like "Dinosaurs" yet it leaves no sign of its existence. No one living has ever seen dinosaurs too, to back up my statements.

      The asteroid did leave a mark. The Chixulub Crater in Mexio has been dated to the exact time when dinosaurs went extinct. Also, I'm 100% sure you've seen a real dinosaur, as birds are living dinosaurs. Also, there are plenty of other species that are 100% extinct, such as Wooly Mammoths, or Saber-Toothed Cats.

      Well the asteroid isn't the only culprit for wiping out the dinosaurs, cause most of the dinosaurs were extinct 1 million years before the asteroid hit.

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    • I don't quite agree with calling dinosaurs 'powerful', as they are creatures, not some empire or whatever. Also, a dinosaur can be killed, just as you can kill a human, which is the most advanced life form on earth. In regard to the '100% extinct' arguement, if I got every elephant on earth and killed them all, what would they be? 100% extinct? Also, extinction IS the 100%, you can't be 50% extinct, that would just be endangered.

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    • EK155 wrote: I don't quite agree with calling dinosaurs 'powerful', as they are creatures, not some empire or whatever. Also, a dinosaur can be killed, just as you can kill a human, which is the most advanced life form on earth. In regard to the '100% extinct' arguement, if I got every elephant on earth and killed them all, what would they be? 100% extinct? Also, extinction IS the 100%, you can't be 50% extinct, that would just be endangered.

      You are right, my friend.

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    • All about dinosaurs just a theory and we must seeing that as a theory too not a fact. Sicientist just trying to made one and another fossils they found into an animal, we can't say it was a true structure or not, so I can't say that they are true about dinosaurs. If you dont agree well i just said what i thought

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    • 125.164.16.56 wrote:
      All about dinosaurs just a theory and we must seeing that as a theory too not a fact. Sicientist just trying to made one and another fossils they found into an animal, we can't say it was a true structure or not, so I can't say that they are true about dinosaurs. If you dont agree well i just said what i thought

      Dinosaurs have existed; various pieces of tech have proven fossils to be real.

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    • Well then 125.164.16.56, what do you think these fossils are? Dragons?

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    • I believe that dinosaurs are magnificent creatures that God created, not mishapen lizerd bones or saten's atempt to trick us. And our evolution is different from Darwin's evolution(closer to natural selection). If you find it hard to believe that T-rex could have walked in the garden of eden, the lions ate grass. And grooves in tyrannosaurus rex's teeth show that that mightof eaten melons, then i asume that they would have eaten dear, dinosaur, cattle, corpse, and people  :D

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    • I believe that dinosaurs are magnificent creatures that God created, not mishapen lizerd bones or saten's atempt to trick us. And our evolution is different from Darwin's evolution(closer to natural selection). If you find it hard to believe that T-rex could have walked in the garden of eden, the lions ate grass. And grooves in tyrannosaurus rex's teeth show that that mightof eaten melons, then i asume that they would have eaten dear, dinosaur, cattle, corpse, and people  :D


      this was me.

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    • Please... no...

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    • EK155, are you one of those people who are highly offended by anyone who has a religion of a faith? Because evalution can not be comfirmed or denied eather. Or is it because i was a bit off subject? Or do you not like melons???

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    • Or do you not want this to become a religios conversation?

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    • 184.88.96.154 wrote:
      It's sad (but not surprising) how most people buy into the dinosaurs BS. Nobody here has ever seen a fossil for themselves, actually all the so called "fossils" displayed at every museum are plaster "recreations", the supposed real bones are kept in vaults that only very few people have access to. A full skeleton has never been found nor has a single skull, actually nobody thats not a "paleantologist" has ever found any fossils. Think about it...tens of tousands of constructions and dig sites every day all over the world and nobody ever finds fossils...except the people who have a vested interest (bones sell for millions) in finding them. They find indian burial sites and idigineous tribal artifacts all the time but never dinosaurs bones. 

      So if dinosaurs arn't real, then what are they? what do these fossils belong to?there is large amount of flaw here. And also I literally searched "little kid finds dinosaur bones" 

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/4-year-old-dinosaur-bones-texas_n_7022842.html

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    • PoppyNoodle I am fine with people having their religion, it is just the way you put it was, as you said, introducing religious context. I believe that having religion supporting an arguement such as this reduces credibility of the arguement.

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    • Oooooooooooooh! Sorta like "My Religeon says it's true so I dont need to listen or come up whith actual facts and truth!" Yeah, that makes sence sorry. And great job comating that!

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    • Richard Owen created the theory of dinosaurs in order to prove that evolution didn't happen; based on a few teeth, part of a jawbone, and some rock fragments found after a dynamite explosion.  Evolution by natural selection believes animals become stronger and more evolved over time.  Dinosaurs were proof that evolution was wrong, because giant Megalosaurus wouldn't evolve into a lowly snake.  The Dinosaur Lawyer (on amazon) explores the origins of dinosaur theory and modern science to make the shocking case that those big fiberglass and plaster casts you see in museums are based off of imagination and not the remains of real dinosaurs

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    • 75.80.36.70 wrote:
      Richard Owen created the theory of dinosaurs in order to prove that evolution didn't happen; based on a few teeth, part of a jawbone, and some rock fragments found after a dynamite explosion.  Evolution by natural selection believes animals become stronger and more evolved over time.  Dinosaurs were proof that evolution was wrong, because giant Megalosaurus wouldn't evolve into a lowly snake.  The Dinosaur Lawyer (on amazon) explores the origins of dinosaur theory and modern science to make the shocking case that those big fiberglass and plaster casts you see in museums are based off of imagination and not the remains of real dinosaurs

      Sorry, but I can't agree on that.

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    • Because people are ignorant and refuse to believe stone-hard evidence, plain and simple.

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    • I'm a Christian and I believe in dinosaurs. I love dinosaurs!! When I was little I didn't have little girl toys I had these dinosaurs figures. My biggest one was about 12 inches tall. Mom tried to buy me a Barbie doll once and I made my Trex and velociraptors eat Barbie lol. My mom encouraged me about dinosaurs. She said just because it's not in the Bible dosnt mean it didn't exist. I would always ask her why God created dinosaurs and she would tell me that would be a question I could ask him someday. And as a little girl I came up with this theory. What if God made dinosaurs to practice on. And when he realized how freaky they where he sent a meteor to get rid of them and started over. Theory of an 8 year old lol.

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    • With that logic, many of our modern animal species would already be extinct. Also, there is enough evidence to proove evolution is real.

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    • Logo8th wrote:

      GenerationRewinder wrote:
      I found this while searching the web, and I used to think dinosaurs are real, but now I'm thinking there fake. Nothing in this world has ever been 100% extinct, but the almighty powerful dinosaurs are, if they were so powerful, how did they die? It had to be a MUCH more powerful force, yet we've never seen that force, whether it be a disease or a asteroid, it left no mark on Earth, and it had to be pretty powerful to wipe out an entire species of powerful creatures like "Dinosaurs" yet it leaves no sign of its existence. No one living has ever seen dinosaurs too, to back up my statements.

      The asteroid did leave a mark. The Chixulub Crater in Mexio has been dated to the exact time when dinosaurs went extinct. Also, I'm 100% sure you've seen a real dinosaur, as birds are living dinosaurs. Also, there are plenty of other species that are 100% extinct, such as Wooly Mammoths, or Saber-Toothed Cats.

      And Dodos, and Tasmanian Tigers, Moas, and many others who became extinct recently.

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    • Dinosaurs existed. Point made.

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    • Hammerbro123 wrote:
      With that logic, many of our modern animal species would already be extinct. Also, there is enough evidence to proove evolution is real.

      I kinda think evolution is a sorta religon. There is NOT cold hard proof of evolution, its just what many people believe! I believe in the one true God. Some believe in Buda. One of us is right... the rest are wrong...

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    • [[1]]

      Troglobites alone are enough proof to proove evolution exists. Also, evolution is more of a scientific thoery than a religion, but not that kind of thoery.

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    • Hammerbro123 wrote:
      [[1]]

      Troglobites alone are enough proof to proove evolution exists. Also, evolution is more of a scientific thoery than a religion, but not that kind of thoery.

      But its a theory that has been proven correct time and time again. When you're in the midst of surviving you pass your genes on to the next generation on to the next, eventually the traits you possess are lost in your lastest descendants as a way to survive the world better...which is why most animals of the same ancestor all divided into groups. Like for us humans we're Great Apes like Gorillas and Orangutans we all have similar traits from our ancestors, but we eventually evolved to be more different in order to better our survival...and that's constantly happening to us today.

      All these happened because God created all things, he didn't just create life he created all the constructs of science, God is the creator of Evolution itself. Most people find it easier to believe in one thing that makes sense to them (for example: Science and Religion), but like with a story if you  learn from both sides of the story you at least get a better understanding.

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    • Ibarber wrote:
      Hammerbro123 wrote:
      [[1]]

      Troglobites alone are enough proof to proove evolution exists. Also, evolution is more of a scientific thoery than a religion, but not that kind of thoery.

      But its a theory that has been proven correct time and time again. When you're in the midst of surviving you pass your genes on to the next generation on to the next, eventually the traits you possess are lost in your lastest descendants as a way to survive the world better...which is why most animals of the same ancestor all divided into groups. Like for us humans we're Great Apes like Gorillas and Orangutans we all have similar traits from our ancestors, but we eventually evolved to be more different in order to better our survival...and that's constantly happening to us today.

      All these happened because God created all things, he didn't just create life he created all the constructs of science, God is the creator of Evolution itself. Most people find it easier to believe in one thing that makes sense to them (for example: Science and Religion), but like with a story if you  learn from both sides of the story you at least get a better understanding.

      God's creation of evolution is what you believe and we respect that, but not everyone thinks about it the same way. 

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    • Dinosaurs are lies fed to us to cover the existence of Pokémon!

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    • Utkar22 wrote:
      Dinosaurs are lies fed to us to cover the existence of Pokémon!

      Could be, XD
      You're not actually serious, are you?

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    • While all of you are focusing on the religous problem, which I can understand, I'm still confused on the whole "feathered dinos are fake and made in China" thing.


      Sure, Jurassic Park may be part of the reason, and I can see why people would think pterosaurs are dinosaurs. However, what would make a person think that Yutyrannus and other feathered dinosaurs are fake and are specifically made in China?


      Heck there's one specific guy who made a channel JUST to share the "truth" on Youtube . Just..... just why?


      Also, the other videos on his channel other than the feathered dino ones are just plain bonkers.

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    • Hi,

      Someone said about having not seen God but there are other ways to know something exist. We dont believe in God just because of the Bible though we believe the Bible is without error. We Catholics believe the existence of God can be proved by reason alone. For example argument from contingency, argument from motion and argument from Design. You would think a model of the solar system si deisgned even if there could be a possible explanation but not the universe? Read Catechism of Pope Pius X I think it is a good simple explanation of Catholic doctrine. We also believe we have motives of crediblity for our Faith such as the Sanctity of the Saints and the incorruptibles and eucharistic miracles for example which you shouls look into as your soul may depend on it. The Church is necessary for salvation but look at what we mean by that in the Catechism of Pope Pius X. And most of what you may thin of the Catholic Church (i mean myths) is probably false. read Catholic refutations of these obejctions but dont join any Schsimatic groups which deny Vatican II or the Pope (Vatican II said nothing heretical actually).

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    • Question everything, theres no proof that dinosaurs exist.. the bones could be fabricated.

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    • There is plenty of proof dinosaurs existed. Fossils have been tested and proven to be real. Dinosaurs also left teeth, footprints, feathers, dung, and other traces that have been fossilized. You can't use the "question everything" principle to question something that 100% exists.

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    • Wait a minute, you believe in dinosaurs???? 

      Like, seriously?

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    • 179.53.20.96 wrote:
      Wait a minute, you believe in dinosaurs???? 

      Like, seriously?

      Opinions, anyone ?

      Also, most of the dinosaur fossils have been proven to be real. Dinosaurs existed. There's absolutely no evidence they're fake/made up.

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      Troglobites alone are enough proof to proove evolution exists. Also, evolution is more of a scientific thoery than a religion, but not that kind of thoery.

      How is it not a regular thoery??? Google "fallacy of bandwagon". Also, if troglabites are proof... explain.

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    • And give the same trash! Ho0mEN mUNk3Y blah blah blah... We have little, if not no proof for evolution "or" God (My religion).

      "One of us is right... one of us is wrong." PoppyNoodle

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    • Troglabites are proof because they show how things adapt when put in a certain enviroment. You know what, I'm just going to assume you will be spewing out random crud at this point so I won't bother.

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    • I'll just leave with this message. There is plenty more proof for evolution than what some people believe. They are just to ingorant to take that proof as fact because they think they are right. Evolution is not a religion, it is a scientific thoery based on this proof. And what proof do we have about some stuff that happened at least according to the bible? Pretty much nothing. Exodus was never mentioned in any ancient Egyptian writings and artifacts yet they mention normal droughts. We have never found any ark, and stories of great floodings appear in cultures found in places where flooding is common. People don't believe in dinosaurs because they are too ignorant to believe any evidence put out to them, and spew out random stuff that is hard to believe and easily disproven to back up their side.

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    • Hammerbro123 wrote:
      I'll just leave with this message. There is plenty more proof for evolution than what some people believe. They are just to ingorant to take that proof as fact because they think they are right. Evolution is not a religion, it is a scientific thoery based on this proof. And what proof do we have about some stuff that happened at least according to the bible? Pretty much nothing. Exodus was never mentioned in any ancient Egyptian writings and artifacts yet they mention normal droughts. We have never found any ark, and stories of great floodings appear in cultures found in places where flooding is common. People don't believe in dinosaurs because they are too ignorant to believe any evidence put out to them, and spew out random stuff that is hard to believe and easily disproven to back up their side.

      This is a piece of art. I couldn't agree more. 

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    • Hammerbro123 wrote:
      I'll just leave with this message. There is plenty more proof for evolution than what some people believe. They are just to ingorant to take that proof as fact because they think they are right. Evolution is not a religion, it is a scientific thoery based on this proof. And what proof do we have about some stuff that happened at least according to the bible? Pretty much nothing. Exodus was never mentioned in any ancient Egyptian writings and artifacts yet they mention normal droughts. We have never found any ark, and stories of great floodings appear in cultures found in places where flooding is common. People don't believe in dinosaurs because they are too ignorant to believe any evidence put out to them, and spew out random stuff that is hard to believe and easily disproven to back up their side.

      There really isn't any proof that evolution exists. Yet again, find me a article or something. There actually ARE writings of plagues(rivers of blood, darkness, ect) in Egytian papyrus.

      http://jewishjournal.com/culture/religion/passover/77833/

      If your wondering where that darn ark is... its probably eather eroded, smashed into a billion pieces, or just not found yet.(it's a really big world we live in.) This might be it thow.

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/

      oh, and I do bielve in dinosuars. If i did not i would not be here... on this wiki... talking to people whith thick skulls who don't do there "home work" before saying something. The Bible has never bean proven wrong, exept for when it was proven wrong wrongly.

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    • no-ones found the ark because its probably not there anymore

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    • 123.231.105.15 wrote:
      no-ones found the ark because its probably not there anymore

      Yes, we might just be eating whats left in our food... or something.

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    • Oh, and for a treat guys... I suggest looking into the "moa". closest thing to Jurasic Park were going to get for a while.

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    • \Actually this explanaton is mor simple than thr Catechism of Pius X . Use Baltimore Catechism 2 http://www.saintsbooks.net/books/Baltimore%20Catechism%20No.%202%20(of%204).pdf also 

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    • There is plenty of proof for evolution. I already posted a video that shows this. You just seem to straight up ignore these kind of things.

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    • Thank you Hammerbro123, but this isn't evolution... it's straight up natural selection. Which although is what Darwin himself invisioned evolution to be. it's not what we have to day and it's not the same thing.  Although they call it evolution in the article(which was a good article) , it's not. It's plainly not. Better luck next time.

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    • 123.231.124.126 wrote:
      \Actually this explanaton is mor simple than thr Catechism of Pius X . Use Baltimore Catechism 2 http://www.saintsbooks.net/books/Baltimore%20Catechism%20No.%202%20(of%204).pdf also 

      I'm sorry man, but i have no idea this is. Is it Cathlic or something? If so, im Christian. Which is different.

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    • I think you have to realise that natural selection is the reason why things evolve in the first place.

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    • PoppyNoodle wrote:

      123.231.124.126 wrote:
      \Actually this explanaton is mor simple than thr Catechism of Pius X . Use Baltimore Catechism 2 http://www.saintsbooks.net/books/Baltimore%20Catechism%20No.%202%20(of%204).pdf also 

      I'm sorry man, but i have no idea this is. Is it Cathlic or something? If so, im Christian. Which is different.

      Yes its Catholic
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    • Macro and Mico evolution do exist, but there still different from evolution. Chiwawas were ounce wolves, that does not mean evolution took part in it. I think that Natural selection, Adaptation, breeding, and even different stages in growth and defomation are much to often thought of as "proof " of Evolution. Now hit me whith your best shot...

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    • 123.231.125.237 wrote:

      PoppyNoodle wrote:

      123.231.124.126 wrote:
      \Actually this explanaton is mor simple than thr Catechism of Pius X . Use Baltimore Catechism 2 http://www.saintsbooks.net/books/Baltimore%20Catechism%20No.%202%20(of%204).pdf also 
      I'm sorry man, but i have no idea this is. Is it Cathlic or something? If so, im Christian. Which is different.
      Yes its Catholic

      Thank you.

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    • I don't want waste my energy and time making full arguements, so i'll just post articles to prove my points.

      [http:// https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/]

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    • Ok, mi mind was just blown a bit. So, you believe in evolution, right? And i believe that God created the universe, right?(Some people even think that God created evolution.) Can evolution mean more than, life started with a single cell? Could God of created The Universe, and then created basic creature like lizards, cats, fish ect. And then some forms of evolution changed them into what we have today? Would y'all say thats a decent theory?  Not me or you have to believe it, but that seams like a.. almost, decentish... "comprimise". what do y'all think?

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    • PoppyNoodle wrote:
      123.231.125.237 wrote:

      PoppyNoodle wrote:


      123.231.124.126 wrote:
      \Actually this explanaton is mor simple than thr Catechism of Pius X . Use Baltimore Catechism 2 http://www.saintsbooks.net/books/Baltimore%20Catechism%20No.%202%20(of%204).pdf also 
      I'm sorry man, but i have no idea this is. Is it Cathlic or something? If so, im Christian. Which is different.
      Yes its Catholic
      Thank you.

      Just one last word with regards to that Catechism, in the section on matrimony where it says that the Church forbids marriages with people of different Religion but a dispensation can be given provided that the Catholic party promises to raise the children Catholic etc.

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    • PoppyNoodle wrote:
      Ok, mi mind was just blown a bit. So, you believe in evolution, right? And i believe that God created the universe, right?(Some people even think that God created evolution.) Can evolution mean more than, life started with a single cell? Could God of created The Universe, and then created basic creature like lizards, cats, fish ect. And then some forms of evolution changed them into what we have today? Would y'all say thats a decent theory?  Not me or you have to believe it, but that seams like a.. almost, decentish... "comprimise". what do y'all think?

      Yeah, no. That doesn't make much sense.

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    • Stuborn  AF atheist! I DIDN'T MEAN IF IT ALINES WHITH YOUR (crushingly sad) DESPERATE ATEMPT TO PROVE THAT THE DAHM UNIVERSE WAS MADE FROM PATHETIC DUST THAT, SOME HOW BIRTHED LIFE!!! 

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    • Sorry. But unlike your truly desperate try to prove that Evolution is not built on simply ideas,  opineons, creativity, and... FAITH(the word you dare not speak or believe). Or even failer to ignore your hideous gilt, that i know you feel... The Bible, although it does have not strait forward proof,(you CAN NOT proove the past.) it's edge is that it has never been proven wrong. And you cannot say that, that isn't as good a edge as any. One day you may come to see the truth, and God will not regect you.

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    • I can see you are starting to get salty and desperate. Also you just assumed I'm an athiest. I already posted an article proving my points and yet you say nothing. I knew this was a waste of time.

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    • Also work on your grammer.

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    • Sorry, i'm not fealing well right now. I am sorry for haveing bad grammer. But the articles you have shown are more of things that they show eight year olds in school. There is know way that anyone can actually prove the past, exept whith unedited video... which no one has, or ever will have. I will never say thatyou ccan proove the Bible either. But it has never bean proven wrong, and it is acurate on many things in the past. While evoluion has only seen that all these creatures simularites. Also, you seam a lot like a aithiest to most people.

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    • PoppyNoodle wrote:
      Sorry, i'm not fealing well right now. I am sorry for haveing bad grammer. But the articles you have shown are more of things that they show eight year olds in school. There is know way that anyone can actually prove the past, exept whith unedited video... which no one has, or ever will have. I will never say thatyou ccan proove the Bible either. But it has never bean proven wrong, and it is acurate on many things in the past. While evoluion has only seen that all these creatures simularites. Also, you seam a lot like a aithiest to most people.

      Let me just break down your points a bit:

      - No way anyone can prove the past, except with unedited video: Show me unedited video of whatever happens in the Bible.

      - The Bible has never been proven wrong: Yes it has, just read this http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/errors.htm, really interesting article.

      - Is accurate on many historical things: No it's not.

      - Evolution has only seen that all these creatures are similar: Yeah, maybe in the start, but nowadays we have DNA to prove it, unless creatures have similar DNA as a coincidence.

      I'm just going to deconstruct everybody's points from now on lol.

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    • Thank you

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    • EK155, great job. At least there are some people who think stuff through these days. But we all know what happens next...

      1. Sorry, i know i can't show you any videos, at all. But you can't show me Evolution videos eather, so... theres no help there.

      2. Yes, this really is an interesting article. And it is right, but is over looking that the people who wrote the Bible didnt even know what electricity was, let olone how there world worked. If they were to say what the world actually was like, everyone would there crazy(probably even themselves). Also, there are a lot of different versions of the Bible, so they cant all be right.

      3. I ment that has'nt bean wrong on historical things. Not the earth and physics.

      4.  DNA is simular in simular things, does not mean evolution. I imagine God was thinking how it was going to work, then thought of DNA because it worked. Sort of like how buildings that look and act simular, are built in simular ways... usally.

      5. Hammerbor123, EK155 is now your teacher, he actully knows how to smart.

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    • So, you have been reduced down to insulting me? I literally posted an article disproving many of the nonsense creationists say and you can't even back your side up with a proper arguement. Who's the one not actually being smart around here?

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    • So. I insult you, a tiny human being(which to a aithiest is FAR less then that), and you insult the religion and belief of hunderends of millions of people all around the world. Shame on you! But i guess that is'int anything to a Nintendo charactor. Who by the way, thinks his entire family(and all of ya'lls) is NOTHING more than a pile of dust that some how turned into planet destroying monster.

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    • This argument is repetiteve and i can't think of much, but this is fun until some one actually say's something that is'nt just.

      "BUT IT IS NOT RELIGION BECAUSE THERE IS PROOF!!!"

      "NO THERE IS NOT!!! YOU'VE JUST TOLD YOURSELF THAT!!!"

      "And you believe in a giant space wizard who created the universe."

      "RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

      "RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

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    • I'm just going to put this out there. The reason I say there isn't really any proof for the the things that happened in the Bible. There really isn't. But there is so much more proof for evolution plus all these things that made our universe. It is more than just a thing of opinion or faith, it is a scientific thoery based on all these facts and evidence we have gathered in the last decades or so. People are just too afraid or too ignorant to let go their beliefs, so they try to say outrageous claims to try to disprove evolution and science in general, and it hasn't really worked. What if I told you that there are still people that believe the Earth is flat. There really is. But we have already proven that it is not. This just shows how ignorant these kinds of people can be. The Bible really is only good in teaching lessons about morality, but it shouldn't be treated as a history book.

      Now, this isn't an attack on religion as a whole, just addressing the few that sort of hold onto their beliefs a bit too much.

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    • [http:// https://www.atmos.washington.edu/2001Q1/211/Group_projects/group_X_W01/tanya.htm]

      [http:// https://futurism.com/three-main-pieces-of-evidence-supporting-evolution/]

      Here are some articles that prove my points. However, I highly doubt you will have much to say from what i've seen.

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    • Ok, this is my real problem whith evolution. It says that the universe was created whith dust, energy, and chance. Leaving no room for the one true God. And i still can't see how you can atually proove evolution, have you ever REALLY seen evolution??? If you have then i'll turn into a aithiest(God forbid ;P). But then i'll also have to burn you for being a witch... and i don't wanna do that!

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    • Yes, we have seen evolution. Mostly in single-celled organisms, but it has been witnessed on a smaller scale with larger organisms. The reason we haven't seen large scale evolution is because it takes so long to do so, so you're point is kinda irrelevant. Not to mention, have you ever seen the great flood, exodus, genesis? If you can't prove something because you haven't "seen" it (which is a very bad example) then I should apply the same with the events of the bible.

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    • Hammerbro123 wrote:
      Yes, we have seen evolution. Mostly in single-celled organisms, but it has been witnessed on a smaller scale with larger organisms. The reason we haven't seen large scale evolution is because it takes so long to do so, so you're point is kinda irrelevant. Not to mention, have you ever seen the great flood, exodus, genesis? If you can't prove something because you haven't "seen" it (which is a very bad example) then I should apply the same with the events of the bible.

      You know that when microbes "evolve" it's just called adaptaition. Smaller scale "evolution", is only microevolution(which is still different). There are no history books recording evolution, there are books saying what aithiests THINK happened. The Bible is a history book, and you nor I can confirm or denie that. There are things that lead towards some sort of great flood of sorts(not saying i agree whith them). But, you still have not seen or recorded(in any way) large scale evlution.

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    • So i dont have to burn you alive, pilgrim style.

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    • Oh so if something isn't recorded that must mean it doesn't exist? Okay, so I geuss atoms, planets, and galaxies don't exist because they aren't recorded in some ancient book. Great logic there. (Oh and btw, microevolution is just a form of evolution.)

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    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

      We know that planets exist because there right there. Also atoms and galaxies are just a lie made up by the goverment in a atempt to hide the true nature of "Chicken Nuggets'. I'm also 99.99999 percent sure that a creature changing slightly, do to most likely the environment(microevolution), is a lot different from if a lizard of sorts turned into a monkey of sorts. If you don't think thats a bit different then... you need to learn basic logic. Or maybe I dont know how logic works, after after studying it and practiceing it for years and years, that would make less sence than if a fish and water buffalo got married and had a talking banana... I think!

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    • I love chicken nuggets...

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    • No. Atoms and galaxies have been proven to be real.

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    • There is a reason why microevolution has the word evolution in it, because it is simply a form of evolution. Oh, and evolution isn't just more than a lizard turning into a monkey, it is the "the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth." This is the definition you will most likely get in the dictionary. I also just said that evolution can take millions of years to happen, and it would be kinda hard to record that... The fact that I bring up these articles with very good points and you can't even argue with those points, or just straight up ingnores it, makes me think that you are just wasting my time. Oh, also the fact that you think evolution isn't good logic also makes me think you just deny it without giving it second thought.

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    • Well then, lets see. From what you say, it appears if you assume that we went reptile -> human pretty fast. We didn't. The LCA of dinosaurs and humans is pre-Mesozoic. Look up a cladogram of reptilia. You'll notice that what would become mammals seperated much earlier than you think. Modern theory dictates that the mammal like reptiles, synapsids, evolved in the Carboniferous. I would even go so far to say that Synapsids (e.g. Gorgonospids) were more advanced than archosaurs at the time (e.g. Archosaurus). In addition, dinosaurs evolved quite slowly. The first dinosaurs appeared in the Late Triassic, whereas Synapsids were larger and more advanced.

      You speak as if the bible and evolution theory are not equal. Reminds me of me and my little brother when we get in trouble.

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    • I don't know whether they existed or not. I do know that one should research things for themselves. "All scientists say this" or "everyone believes it" is a very immature and laughable argument as for centuries scientists and most people believed the earth to be flat and the sun to revolve around the sun.

      The fact is that there is a strong argument for why dinosaurs may have never existed. In the Nineteenth century there was a movement to replace creationism with evolution and it's not above people to do what they can to get others to believe what they want them to believe. It is a fact that no full skeleton has been found and that depictions of dinosaurs are educated guesses and not facts. It is also a fact that the belief in dinosaurs is coming from the 19'th century, when all these bones were conveniently found by people who were already dinosaur believers.

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    • To break down your first point, scientists atleast accept their mistakes (most of them anyways), also, there weren't as many scientists when the flat earth theory was prevalent, as their beliefs conflicted that of the church so they got executed. Also, in the Middle Ages, flat earth was a resonable theory as that was all they had evidence for. They thought, 'hey, the world's got no curve in it, probablyflat' and 'hmm, the sun seems to travel our sky, 'I suppose it goes around us'. Back in those times, people didn't have enough information to know what the earth was like, nowadays we have evidence, so any person that believes the earth is flat is either a denier, or hasn't been educated.

      To your second point, you are correct in saying that no complete skeleton had been found. No complete one skeleton. It's like a puzzle, if you're missing pieces you go get some more of the same set. We know that different fossils are the same species because they overlap, if you know what I mean, so we know the extra pieces can fill the missing pieces.

      Your third point, that fossils are discovered by dinosaur believers. Let me say that argument is utter nonsense. Two parts to counter that arguement. Most fossils you have to dig for. No way somebody would waste their time searching for something they don't believe in. Second part is that if they were to find a fossil, would they tell everybody? They would find proof, so they would either change their beliefs or hide it away, suprised that their opinions are conflicted by evidence.

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    • PoppyNoodle wrote: 1. Sorry, i know i can't show you any videos, at all. But you can't show me Evolution videos eather, so... theres no help there

      How would you record evolution? Putting a timelapse of some fish tank of ancient fish wouldn't foster evolution. Evolution would be hard to record ...hush child

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    • EK155 wrote:
      Well then, lets see.

      From what you say, it appears if you assume that we went reptile -> human pretty fast. We didn't. The LCA of dinosaurs and humans is pre-Mesozoic. Look up a cladogram of reptilia. You'll notice that what would become mammals seperated much earlier than you think. Modern theory dictates that the mammal like reptiles, synapsids, evolved in the Carboniferous. I would even go so far to say that Synapsids (e.g. Gorgonospids) were more advanced than archosaurs at the time (e.g. Archosaurus). In addition, dinosaurs evolved quite slowly. The first dinosaurs appeared in the Late Triassic, whereas Synapsids were larger and more advanced.

      You speak as if the bible and evolution theory are not equal. Reminds me of me and my little brother when we get in trouble.

      Look man, I don't even know what you think came before monkeys... humans, apes, monkeys, what came before that?

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    • EK155 wrote:

      PoppyNoodle wrote: 1. Sorry, i know i can't show you any videos, at all. But you can't show me Evolution videos eather, so... theres no help there

      How would you record evolution? Putting a timelapse of some fish tank of ancient fish wouldn't foster evolution. Evolution would be hard to record ...hush child

      Thats kinda the point. Evolution has not bean recorded in any form. Fossils are not a step by step tutorial of evolution. And you dont even have an old(and honestly not fully provable) book. Were both talking nonsence and you cant denie it! One of us thinks that a giant space wizard(God) created the universe, and the other thinks humans and everthing else came from a what woudnt even be considerd life(evolution)! The only reason evolution is considerded science is becuase you said so! I consider it a godless religion.

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    • I also like the old chicken nugget recipe infinetly better...

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    • PoppyNoodle wrote:
      EK155 wrote:

      PoppyNoodle wrote: 1. Sorry, i know i can't show you any videos, at all. But you can't show me Evolution videos eather, so... theres no help there

      How would you record evolution? Putting a timelapse of some fish tank of ancient fish wouldn't foster evolution. Evolution would be hard to record ...hush child
      Thats kinda the point. Evolution has not bean recorded in any form. Fossils are not a step by step tutorial of evolution. And you dont even have an old(and honestly not fully provable) book. Were both talking nonsence and you cant denie it! One of us thinks that a giant space wizard(God) created the universe, and the other thinks humans and everthing else came from a what woudnt even be considerd life(evolution)! The only reason evolution is considerded science is becuase you said so! I consider it a godless religion.

      Yeah, the only nonsense here is being spurted from you. You just straight deny evolution without giving a good reason. I give proof, you ingnore it. I say the proof, you deny it. Also, evolution is not a science just because "someone says so". It is widely agreed by many scientists to be part of science. You just deny it because you don't believe in it, even when the proof is put up right in front of your face.

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    • Point made, if you can't even put up a good arguement with credible proof, then don't even bother. This entire thing is just us giving you the flat-out evidence and then you just denying it and saying the most nonsensical things right after.

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    • you know in the middle ages people knew the earth was round right, and the Church never execute scientists thats historically innacurate

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    • 123.231.125.59 wrote:
      PoppyNoodle wrote:
      123.231.125.237 wrote:

      PoppyNoodle wrote:


      123.231.124.126 wrote:
      \Actually this explanaton is mor simple than thr Catechism of Pius X . Use Baltimore Catechism 2 http://www.saintsbooks.net/books/Baltimore%20Catechism%20No.%202%20(of%204).pdf also 
      I'm sorry man, but i have no idea this is. Is it Cathlic or something? If so, im Christian. Which is different.
      Yes its Catholic but we are Christians
      Thank you.
      Just one last word with regards to that Catechism, in the section on matrimony where it says that the Church forbids marriages with people of different Religion but a dispensation can be given provided that the Catholic party promises to raise the children Catholic etc.

      Another last thing some of the disciplines have changed in the Catechism of Pius X, with regard to fasting for 3 hours befoe communion or if a protestant gives you a protestant Bible you should burn it or give it to the preist. (because it is unclear whether the translation has erros) , I am not sure this is still binding. it was only for some parts of italy. but I recommended the other one and I know this is off topic but I was clarifiying something i earlier said.

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    • Hammerbro123... tell me again what your "proof" is, in list format if possible. Many scientists bieleve that evolution exists, espeically the ones who try VERY hard to find some way that life could be made whithout God. You look at the past and see something that looks like evolution, and say " It could be possible, and i'm not just makeing this up and telling myself it till i bieleve it.". The Bible could have bean wrong on sooooooooooooooo many historical things, but it has'nt! If you think that seeing grate simularites in creatures is enuf to say that it is evolution, why are you so quick to say a anciant book that predicted futures and has never bean historacly wrong... is just a book of fairy tales???

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    • I think that a good way to tell if some one is wise or just stuborn is to see wether they say that they could be wrong. I've already said that i could be wrong, because bieleving somthing does'nt make it true, but stuborn people think other wise. And want to try some of the new Chickin Nuggets again...

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    • PoppyNoodle wrote: Hammerbro123... tell me again what your "proof" is, in list format if possible. Many scientists bieleve that evolution exists, espeically the ones who try VERY hard to find some way that life could be made whithout God. You look at the past and see something that looks like evolution, and say " It could be possible, and i'm not just makeing this up and telling myself it till i bieleve it.". The Bible could have bean wrong on sooooooooooooooo many historical things, but it has'nt! If you think that seeing grate simularites in creatures is enuf to say that it is evolution, why are you so quick to say a anciant book that predicted futures and has never bean historacly wrong... is just a book of fairy tales???

      I see you haven't read my points closely. I will not continue in this debate unless you choose to present some evidence from your case. I've had enough. If you were getting marked on this, you would get a dreadful fail. Just like your pitiful attempts to disprove evidence, when you present none of your own.

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    • Also, learn how to spell.

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    • EK155 wrote:

      PoppyNoodle wrote: Hammerbro123... tell me again what your "proof" is, in list format if possible. Many scientists bieleve that evolution exists, espeically the ones who try VERY hard to find some way that life could be made whithout God. You look at the past and see something that looks like evolution, and say " It could be possible, and i'm not just makeing this up and telling myself it till i bieleve it.". The Bible could have bean wrong on sooooooooooooooo many historical things, but it has'nt! If you think that seeing grate simularites in creatures is enuf to say that it is evolution, why are you so quick to say a anciant book that predicted futures and has never bean historacly wrong... is just a book of fairy tales???

      I see you haven't read my points closely. I will not continue in this debate unless you choose to present some evidence from your case. I've had enough. If you were getting marked on this, you would get a dreadful fail. Just like your pitiful attempts to disprove evidence, when you present none of your own.

      ^This pretty much

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    • EK155 wrote:

      PoppyNoodle wrote: Hammerbro123... tell me again what your "proof" is, in list format if possible. Many scientists bieleve that evolution exists, espeically the ones who try VERY hard to find some way that life could be made whithout God. You look at the past and see something that looks like evolution, and say " It could be possible, and i'm not just makeing this up and telling myself it till i bieleve it.". The Bible could have bean wrong on sooooooooooooooo many historical things, but it has'nt! If you think that seeing grate simularites in creatures is enuf to say that it is evolution, why are you so quick to say a anciant book that predicted futures and has never bean historacly wrong... is just a book of fairy tales???

      I see you haven't read my points closely. I will not continue in this debate unless you choose to present some evidence from your case. I've had enough. If you were getting marked on this, you would get a dreadful fail. Just like your pitiful attempts to disprove evidence, when you present none of your own.

      I completely agree with you. However, I think you should suggest they edit their post instead of directly saying that they should learn how to spell.

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    • If you idiot's don't believe in dinosaurs, then DON'T... COME... TO... THIS... WIKI...

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    • I agree with you 100 percent, some people are unedjecated to an immense degree. Some people also think dinosaurs lived thousands of years ago

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    • I see that there are two arguments about evolution and God. PoppyNoodle's argument says that evolution doesn't exist because living things don't just come from dust which is true since the theory of abiogenesis has already been disproven by Louis Pasteur and Fransisco Redi. However, that wasn't the the point of Hammerbro because he is saying that evolution exists because we are from our ancestors. For example, apes, chimpanzees, and humans have the same ancestor which is the Austrolopithecus Africanus. I agree the evolution does exist because I have been researching on my own and have been looking at the evolutionary tree. PoppyNoodle, the evolution that we are trying to say to you is the evolution between living things. Living things cannot come from non-living things which makes your rebuttal of evolution not existing invalid.

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    • I'm not taking sides but it is actually extremely funny how most of you that say you believe in dinosaurs, and say that those that don't have illogical opinions, can't even spell correctly... I believe it would be easy to falsify something as large as the belief of dinosaurs being real. Once something is started, over a long period of time, it can easily expand through diversity. Similar to christianity, people will believe in something so much that they start to manifest imagination into reality, and create proof to back up their theories. I prefer to say "because I wasn't there I don't know" because I wasn't, and don't know. I dislike the fact that this battle seems to be enforced by the majority. Accept each other's opinions and call it a controversy. Btw, the statment that birds are descendants of dinosaurs confuses me a little. If all dinosaur life was destroyed then how can something descend from something dead? Are you trying to say they are descedants of dinosaur dna?

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    • Also to further support my case, the creation and development of the universe is different from the creation and development of life. We are focusing on life on Earth here since the universe is an infinitely vast thing. And besides, it's not disproving God because there is a possibility of a great Mover that made the universe since there would be nothing at the very beginning. Where would the dust and everything else come from? And also where would that single-celled organism come from if it could not come from non-living things? These questions become proof for the existence of God but I repeat, evolution does exist because from a single-celled organism (our first ancestor), there have been species (some of which are extinct today like dinosaurs) which are different from one another in appearance and in genes. Therefore, how can you say that evolution does not exist? To put it simply, you can't.

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    • 92.40.249.148 wrote: I'm not taking sides but it is actually extremely funny how most of you that say you believe in dinosaurs, and say that those that don't have illogical opinions, can't even spell correctly... I believe it would be easy to falsify something as large as the belief of dinosaurs being real. Once something is started, over a long period of time, it can easily expand through diversity. Similar to christianity, people will believe in something so much that they start to manifest imagination into reality, and create proof to back up their theories. I prefer to say "because I wasn't there I don't know" because I wasn't, and don't know. I dislike the fact that this battle seems to be enforced by the majority. Accept each other's opinions and call it a controversy. Btw, the statment that birds are descendants of dinosaurs confuses me a little. If all dinosaur life was destroyed then how can something descend from something dead? Are you trying to say they are descedants of dinosaur dna?

      If I may answer, I think that before dinosaurs were wiped out from the face of the Earth there were already other species that evolved from them. Not to mention that not all dinosaurs were massive like the microraptor which is bipedial and also has wings (kind of resembles a carnivorous chicken to me). Then the extinction of dinosaurs led to the increase of mammals and other smaller species, birds specifically.

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    • 130.105.216.121 wrote:
      Also to further support my case, the creation and development of the universe is different from the creation and development of life. We are focusing on life on Earth here since the universe is an infinitely vast thing. And besides, it's not disproving God because there is a possibility of a great Mover that made the universe since there would be nothing at the very beginning. Where would the dust and everything else come from? And also where would that single-celled organism come from if it could not come from non-living things? These questions become proof for the existence of God but I repeat, evolution does exist because from a single-celled organism (our first ancestor), there have been species (some of which are extinct today like dinosaurs) which are different from one another in appearance and in genes. Therefore, how can you say that evolution does not exist? To put it simply, you can't.

      I kind of agree with you. However, the Universe is not infinitely vast. Many people do not realize that the universe is actually limited. Scientists estimate that the Universe is 93 billion light years across, but that is still not infinite.  If you were to keep on going, you would eventually reach the end of the Universe. But then I agree with you in saying that God and Evolution can both be true. The six days that the world was created in may be referring to the Hadean, Archean, Proterozoic, Paleozoic, Mesozoic, and Cenozoic. And the seventh may refer to heaven. When the bible talks about time, sometimes a day means an actual day, a day means 7 years or whatever or even like 141 years. So why couldn't it sometimes also refer to millions of years. However, thats just a theory after all, and I'm not saying I am sure or anything.

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    • I am a volunteer at a Paleontology museum, where I am a fossil preparator. One day, a lady was visiting the museum and when she passed by the lab, she started telling us (the preparators and the paleontologist that was also there) that dinosaurs werent real and that fossils were lies invented by scientists to become rich and famous. Then, on of us said to her "Do you really think these things (pointing to the fossils being prepared) are lies? Are you telling me that I spent my hole life studying something that is «just a lie»? Are you saying that Im a lier?!?".

      Then the lady became a bit nervous and said "Er... no, no..." and quicly walked away.

      This kind of people are beyond my comprehension...

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    • The Paleo Show wrote:
      I am a volunteer at a Paleontology museum, where I am a fossil preparator. One day, a lady was visiting the museum and when she passed by the lab, she started telling us (the preparators and the paleontologist that was also there) that dinosaurs werent real and that fossils were lies invented by scientists to become rich and famous. Then, on of us said to her "Do you really think these things (pointing to the fossils being prepared) are lies? Are you telling me that I spent my hole life studying something that is «just a lie»? Are you saying that Im a lier?!?".

      Then the lady became a bit nervous and said "Er... no, no..." and quicly walked away.

      This kind of people are beyond my comprehension...

      People seriously think that the fossils of dinosaurs are carved clay prepared by a worldwide syndicate of practical jokers... it kind of blows my mind

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    • Cougarcat wrote: I kind of agree with you. However, the Universe is not infinitely vast. Many people do not realize that the universe is actually limited. Scientists estimate that the Universe is 93 billion light years across, but that is still not infinite.  If you were to keep on going, you would eventually reach the end of the Universe. But then I agree with you in saying that God and Evolution can both be true. The six days that the world was created in may be referring to the Hadean, Archean, Proterozoic, Paleozoic, Mesozoic, and Cenozoic. And the seventh may refer to heaven. When the bible talks about time, sometimes a day means an actual day, a day means 7 years or whatever or even like 141 years. So why couldn't it sometimes also refer to millions of years. However, thats just a theory after all, and I'm not saying I am sure or anything.

      Oh, I didn't know that there was already an estimation but isn't the universe continually expanding until now? And I wasn't just pertaining to the size, I was pertaining also about how we mere humans cannot discover everything about it. Hell, we haven't even discovered everything about Earth yet. And I also agree with you, a day of creation may be longer than 24 hours before. It's in the Bible but no human saw it and if someone said it, it could be open to a less literal interpretation. Like how most of the figurative phrases are in the Bible. This is only what I think, I'm not sure or anything. I admit that I don't read the Bible (I'm Catholic) but I know the gist of some parts.

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    • I am pretty sure you aren't allowed to double post.

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    • Sebastienxu467 wrote:
      I am pretty sure you aren't allowed to double post.

      I was not aware of that, but I probably was not the one who did it. 

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    • I wasn't talking to you. But yes, sometimes, computers glitch so it allows you to double post. 

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